Midi Control issue

v2 Custom framework Help and troubleshooting
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Hi,

I have the Live 15 and the Side 8 Custom, both controllers Arte working fantastically. I do have an issue tho, in my live projects when it comes to arranging the track I play live and record it all in on the controllers. I haver my send encoders in Live at different settings but don’t want to automate the encoder and loose my original start point that I set on the encoder in live or same situation with the mixer track levels id like to get them all to a level I’m happy with and then automate from that pint without the level getting any higher than the set point.

So basically I want to be able to set the minimum and maximum middi mapping settings for each return pot and fader - the only way I have been able to do this is to midi map inside Ableton and assign the encoder on the live 15 or side 8 to what ever encoder or fader I want-

it kind of works but if I assign anything on the side 8 for example track 7 fader it then moves the track 7 fader on the live 15 as well……any help would be great!

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Hey @pnelectrical!

We checked both config files — your Side 8 and Live 15 are sharing the same MIDI channels and CC numbers on many controls. That’s why moving a fader on one also moves it on the other; Ableton can’t tell them apart.

The main clashes in Bank 0:

  • Faders — Side 8 Analogs 24–31 share CC Ch11 #0–7 with Live 15 Encoders 0–3 (first device control)
  • Buttons — Side 8 Digitals 0–63 share Note Ch2/Ch3 with Live 15 Digitals 0–111
  • Encoder switches — Side 8 Enc switches 1–7 share Note Ch5 with Live 15 Digitals 161–171

Two things to fix:

  1. The crosstalk — Open the Side 8 config in Kilowhat and move the clashing controls to a free channel. Ch14, 15, or 16 are completely unused on both devices. Then remap just those in Ableton.

  2. Min/max ranges — No need for the Ableton MIDI mapping workaround. Every control in Kilowhat has a Min Value and Max Value field. Set those directly and the physical range will be limited without touching your automation.

Let us know if you want help with the specific changes!

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Hi,

I tried changing channels and lost all the colour displays on the pads i changed channel numbers with, i then accidentally set the controller to defult and ive lost everything on the side8 do you still have the file ? i was only sent the remote script so have nothing to upload to kilowatt to get my setting sback on the side 8?

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You’re in luck!

I had downloaded it and already erased it but it was in the Trash in my computer haha

SIDE8.ytx (263.5 KB)

The default configuration is just a basic and progressive NOTES and CCs we initialize every controller with.

Let me know if you can recover it, and remember there were some conflicting messages you might have to change again

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The suggestion never gets old: Backup all your controller files! (ideally in the cloud) :upside_down_face:

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Hi i have uploaded to the controller, its responsive in kilowatt- ableton can see the script in the drop down menu and its selected but controller wont do anything in ableton??

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update

managed to Get it working but the send encoders and faders per track I have to map manually- also even if I don’t map the fader it will be automatically changing parameters in Ableton instruments? any idea how to stop this happening?